California psychiatrist Dr. Anna Lembke was Tucker Carlson’s visitor on Wednesday’s “Tucker Carlson Today” on Fox Nation.

The host famous that Lembke is one in every of the nation’s prime medical consultants in the fields of habit and particularly the opioid epidemic sweeping a lot of Middle America as of late.

Lembke, of Stanford University, informed Carlson that habit total is a up to date “plague”, and that it will seemingly be an affliction that will have an effect on the human race for the foreseeable future:

“I really do think that addiction is the modern plague. I think it’s the quintessential problem of modernity, and one that we’re going to be contending with for the next– I don’t know, however many hundreds of years,” she mentioned.

Lembke mentioned that some Americans haven’t any downside in the case of being hooked on managed substances, medication together with caffeine, or social media – remarking she herself would not really feel affected by alcohol or caffeinated drinks.

“[E]ven those who were previously not vulnerable to the problem of addiction have become vulnerable because of the incredible abundance in our world, and also because of the ways in which so much has become drug-ified,” she mentioned.

“So behaviors that were previously not considered drugs have now essentially become drugs. They’ve been engineered to be drugs.”


In her personal case, Lembke mentioned her proverbial habit was first studying novels on then-new know-how like the Amazon Kindle:

“What happened to me in midlife is I basically got hooked on romance novels. And it was really the Kindle– the technology of the Kindle– that then had me reading later and later into the night, essentially chain reading, until I developed tolerance to kind of ‘The Twilight Saga,’ which was my entry into this world.”


“And I developed tolerance and started needing more and more graphic forms of the romance novel, and ultimately progressed to reading the kinds of erotica that’s not actually consistent with my values,” she added.

“So over the course of a number of years – really became addicted to a kind of a book. And of course, my problem pales in comparison to people who develop very serious addictions to whatever it is.”

Lembke mentioned that the identical physiology that enables individuals to be hooked on seemingly mundane issues like books, or Facebook, or a few of the authorized vices, is the identical that makes individuals hooked on managed substances:


“[T]he same mental machinery that, you know, gets us addicted to heroin, or to cannabis, or to nicotine, is a kind of mental machinery that potentially makes us all vulnerable,” she mentioned.

“So the conventional view is that it’s the person’s fault for getting addicted. It doesn’t matter how many drugs or social media apps or romance novels you have out there. It’s up to the person not to get addicted to them.”

Access to such vices in addition to biology and genetics are often the prime elements for habit, she added, commenting that many individuals who change into hooked on alcohol didn’t develop up in a house by such habit however could have had ancestors or relations that have been alcoholics.

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